Which is the best method lads ? 06 Z4MC, Sapphire black, Aero sideskirts, BMW strutbrace, CSL's, Remus back boxes, Intravee and Alpine DAB. It also analyzed reviews to verify trustworthiness. By removing the brake dust shield, consumers are accelerating the wear and tear of brake pads and rotors. I was thinking I might get by with just using one for an e brake if I can get the rotor off and rebuild the e brake assembly. Power Stop Front and Rear KOE1240 Stock Replacement Brake Pad and Rotor Kit Autospe Dorman 947-020 Front Brake Dust Shield Compatible with Select Ford Models. by BrianD Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:55 pm, Post I cable tied one of mine as a temporary fix for a few months before they were replaced at the same time as the discs. Looks like most people trim. I actually got 380mm Brembos. I've had a look-see now. There was a problem adding this item to Cart. Suggestion and input welcome. Trimmed for the ST-60 BBK I just had installed, can't see why you'd want to remove it since it still serves a purpose. You cannot paste images directly. That sounds a good idea to me. I only paid 250 for the car. owners, Over 25,000 topics, from beginner tips to technical It may not display this or other websites correctly. by GuidoK Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:33 pm, Post I was planning on sticking with those two brands. I reckon it's rusted completely around one of the bolts. Easy to do and I think it would have lasted indefinitely. A forum community dedicated to BMW owners and enthusiasts. 10p washer to fix it? Please see our. The shields are not expensive, but you have to disassemble the rear wheel bearing to change them. Thank you. Magnesium chloride, or ice-melt as its commonly known, is applied to cold-weather areas to reduce the build-up of ice on roads during snowy conditions. JavaScript is disabled. Im having a hard time locating new ones. Outlets and voltage differ internationally and this product may require an adapter or converter for use in your destination. By Your question might be answered by sellers, manufacturers, or customers who bought this product. All Rights Reserved. I had to replace the 2 front ones but i would not run with out them. I trimmed on my E90, cut them off on my E46. You can post now and register later. Come join the discussion about Bimmerfest events, production numbers, programming, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Your link has been automatically embedded. The rotor is actually loose and just hung up somewhere inside. Thought f*ck it.. Cable tie it to secure it and stop it from rattling.. Whack it back together and get car safely back on the ground.. Lol. Unable to add item to List. Good practice would be to inspect the other side too and only do the other side and wheel bearing if it needs it. Brake master cylinders are a key part of your car braking system. by TameRacingDriver Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:02 pm, Post Power Stop Front and Rear K6480 Carbon-Fiber Ceramic Brake Pad and Drilled and Slot BMW All Systems All Maintenance Service Scanner FOXWELL NT510 Elite Automotive Obd2 Power Stop K2164 Front and Rear Z23 Carbon Fiber Brake Pads with Drilled & Slotted Power Stop CRK3032 Coated Brake Rotor & Ceramic Brake Pads- front, Power Stop CRK2822 Coated Brake Rotor & Ceramic Brake Pads- front & rear. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I also ended up cable tying them to the shocker in the end all mangled, sure they just tin snipped or grinded mine off,i was there watching and can i f**k remember properly, When i cleaned up the 330 i removed mine, did a little rubbing down and sprayd them matt black, resault. Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations, Select the department you want to search in. by dgm Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:14 pm, Post It is rotted around the bolts. Also got my new expansion tank in. The reason I ask if there's a better way with out pulling the hub, a truely foul food for thought,is bc I don't have any tin snips and this little bad boys going to be punching above its weight class lol, hack saw wille asy chew through but its getting leverage in an awkward space,and that awful screechong sound when the metal isnt tight and wobbling.little angle grinder maybe, Actually managed to cut a large chunk of it away using our friend the bad boy to make a pilot cut and then expendable garden secaturs ands it much better just like that still rattled over bumps tho tons betters nows its going to be stupid difficult to get the rest of it with out the disc comming off so the question is which discs to upgrade to and in turn fit new disc shields with superior anti rust treat ment applied first, I bent the Remaining flap over the ball joint the bj has a little house now and bent the bottom flap under bottom line for now no more scratching on disc squeeling while driving and turning and no weird cabin vibrations any more either, I think the cabin vibration is directly connecTed to my stainless exhaust resonating the loose dust shield which was some how transmitting Up to the footwell / dash area, And the why? You are using an out of date browser. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. As the ice begins to melt, the salt starts sticking to brake system parts. Removing brake dust from your wheels is a very simple process. Sounds pretty bad going over bumps in the road. I had to have mine off to fit the bbk no problems so far, Running without, were a royal PITA to take them off though, caliper off & tin snips, yip,me ripped off over a year ago,had to replace back ones though,only thing as they had gone,tried fitting a larger bolt/screw but came loose again,had to grind a slice in them to put on as its a bearing out job to replace properly. The brake dust shield is engineered by the designers of modern cars, trucks, and SUVs to block the collection of not only brake dust, but other contaminants like road grime, dirt, and other particles that can collect on brake system parts. I remember reading a white paper about the braking system a while back, had a lot of detail about some very cool brake system features overall. Thought f*ck it.. Cable tie it to secure it and stop it from rattling.. That's exactly the same scenario as mine. To calculate the overall star rating and percentage breakdown by star, we dont use a simple average. I'm thinking of cutting a small strip of metal and bending it to fit in the recess while overlapping the non recessed part, drilling a hole and bolting through it. But did you know that a leading source of friction comes from debris stuck between the brake pad and the brake rotor? I didn't want to pull the wheel bearing apart just to get the parking brake shoes to work properly. My driver side front shield has finally given up the ghost and is rattling like fooooooook! Any issues doing so?? 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Brake master cylinder replacement helps brake pedals hold pressure when you brake. Power Stop K2813-36 Front & Rear Z36 Truck and Tow Brake Kit. The brake dust shield helps to block road grime, salt, and other contaminants from collecting on the brake system. I'll keep an eye on it for now. People with stoptechs will definitely use this thread for Stoptech Installation. The plate had rusted around the top bolt, strip off the caliper and disc, and you will likely find corroded or cracked mountings. If you answered friction, youd be correct. sounds like you need a bigger hammer:thumbup: Good luck. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. by TameRacingDriver Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:30 pm, Post Plate will have rusted and i believe the only way to replace is wheel and bearing off so most just dont bother as you will have to replace the whole hub bearing assembly as it will likely fall apart on removal, and then of course if you are doing one side it is always good measure to do the other. The brake dust shield is an original equipment manufacturer (OEM) part that helps protect brake system components and other suspension parts from the excessive collection of brake dust. When the water evaporates, the salt acts like sandpaper literally grinding the brake pad and rotor every time the brakes are applied. Now if I could get that drivers side rotor off. Quick question: what causes excessive brake pad wear? That is the plan so far and go from there. by sw4nny Sat Jun 11, 2016 3:08 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, Style we_universal created by INVENTEA & v12mike. Customer Reviews, including Product Star Ratings help customers to learn more about the product and decide whether it is the right product for them. Fast, free online quotes for your car repair. I did the same on my front drivers side plate. Interesting idea, that could be even easier. Go to RealOEM.com and search for the part number, then find them on-line or at any dealer. The rest of it looks as though it's almost new! Pasted as rich text. I had a similar problem with my E30 and I just rived them both off and never bothered replacing them. New backing plates and e brake assembly on both sides. Now time for the rebuild. Mate - these things are horrible!! Sometimes working around the brakes and suspension takes some muscle and I'd hate to slip and cut myself. They came off with relative ease though, just need to be persuasive, lol. People living in cold-weather climates have to deal with an additional culprit to premature brake wear and tear the collection of road salt. by TameRacingDriver Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:19 pm, Post I see the springs thru the holes. Thanks for your advice. by sw4nny Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:47 pm, Post To shed some light on this commonly asked question, lets examine the top 3 reasons brake dust shields should not be removed. Thank you. Pass side is off and the backing plate and e brake is toast. Car brakes are essential to maintain for safety. We have backing plates and wheel bearings in stock. There is no advantage in swapping out a good plate or bearing for fun. 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Now, whats a good way to trim them? If you desire to hire a certified Mechanic to perform Get a fair & transparent quote instantly before booking. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. Post Oh dear! .. bc the cable ties were on the shocks them self kind of glad.. car is so much nicer with just the dust shield cut down a bent out the way with the vibration 80% better in my cars cab you can half hear your self think lol thanks to all that got us here probably seems minor to you but to me its like a medical breakthrough heh. So that wasn't coming off without a fight! Anyone running their E46 without the shields? Nothing wrong with running without, had to take them off my 19yo E36 recently as they were rotten and i fitted a BBK. Copyright 2007 - 2022 M3cutters. However, these recommendations are set by normal use, which includes using the vehicle with all OEM parts installed. As brake dust builds-up, it can become embedded between brake pads and the brake rotor, corrode the brake caliper and possibly lead to premature wear and tear possibly even braking system failure. Paste as plain text instead, Products with electrical plugs are designed for use in the US. The rotor is loose on one side but will not come off. I'll probably leave it as it is until I need to replace the discs (or wheel bearing). And yes, it is harder to find 18" wheels for them, but I was going to eventually get EC-7 for the track since they are the cheapest options. Lol. I had the hub off mine, could I get it off, could I balls!!! I can only hit on one side. Your previous content has been restored. How bad is it to remove brake dust cover? In a perfect world, car owners would replace their brakes as recommended by their manufacturers usually every 30,000 miles. Still, many people wonder if brake dust shields are necessary. Worst comes to worst I'll just get it all replaced.. Got my MOT in Sept so not too long. Slot cars. by sw4nny Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:26 pm, Post Clear editor. However, removing road grime and dirt is not as simple. Then you can use a nut and washer. The shoes will fall off when you pull off the rotor but it's a lot easier than struggling with the adjuster in most cases. Bringing the BMW community together. Thinking about just doing away with them at this point. Its going to be a weekend auto x car and driver. ^ It's a plate held to the stub axle with probably 3 bolts. by GuidoK Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:33 pm, Post I've established that the dust shield behind the brake is the cause of my very unpleasant rattling and grinding noise coming from the wheel. JavaScript is disabled. After removing the rotor the entire shield plate and E brake assembly is toast. Brief content visible, double tap to read full content. by TameRacingDriver Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:42 pm, Post Whether its dust from the brake pads, dirt from the road, or other debris, most brake problems from premature wear of components are due to excessive friction during normal use. You must log in or register to reply here. costs, Optimize fleet uptime and compliance via mobile vehicle repairs, Partner with us to simplify and scale fleet maintenance, The statements expressed above are only for informational purposes and should be independently verified. It runs and drives. Done about 10miles since and no issone of mine was tied up with cable tie,it snapped,so i just tied it up again with some thickish copper wire and cable tie,still come loose ,so thats when i got rid ,needed new caliper at the time so guy who did caliper took them off. I can not find the adjuster to back off the e brake. While it might be tempting to remove the brake dust shield to avoid the extra step during brake pad replacement jobs, the risks simply outweigh any perceived benefits. For brembos, I believe there are endless pads and Pagid for tracks. http://www.stoptech.com/docs/install60-16D0-02.pdf, http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14262499, http://www.stoptech.com/technical-subrake-upgrades. Display as a link instead, And have a pictures or can post a picture of the trimmed dust shield front and rear? ^ +1, the E9x definitely has brake drying, but I believe it does require that the rain sensor be enabled and that it mandate that the wipers be turned on. And of course if you need new e-brake shoes and hardware we have that too. She ran great.Next will be tranny/diff fluid change. Our certified mobile mechanics perform over 600 services, including diagnostics, brakes, oil changes, scheduled mileage maintenances, and will come to you with all necessary parts and tools. The wheel bearing has to come out and I'm told they can sometimes disintegrate when they do. I trimmed mine, granted this was a Nissan, felt comfortable knowing something was back there protecting the other side from debris and heat radiation. If you just remove the shields, then the parking brake shoes will rattle around. On the E46 you need to pull the hubs to get the shields off. Backing plate is in the way of hitting it on both sides. can not get the other rotor to come off, pretty sure the e brake is froze up. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If by "them" you mean removing the parking brake system, then you will have no issues. I cut mine off because I didn't want sharp metal back there. 2022 If the parking brake shoes are holding the rotor on twist the pins that hold the shoes in place on the back side of the backing plate with some needle nose pliers. Please try again. My plates have rusted around the top bolt, the one that's really recessed and where you can't just put a bigger washer on. But thank you for the detailed instructions jhughan. I've done well over 3k so far with no probs. StopTech instructions say you can use a metal snip and shows the area you need to cut as well as another area that has to be pushed back a bit. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Our service team is available 7 days a week, Monday - Friday from 6 AM to 5 PM PST, Saturday - Sunday 7 AM - 4 PM PST. The rest of it looks as though it's almost new! Tried the big hammer method. Took it all apart easy enough to find that only the bolt holes had rusted! Thanks guys! There was a problem completing your request. One of mine is loose and rattling, I need to have a proper look this morning, but I suspect it's rotted away around the bolts. Keeping the brake dust shield installed can extend the life of pads, rotors, and even brake calipers. Took caliper off, took carrier off and found the kn*bhead garage I used to use (who fitted my discs last time) rounded off the disc retaining screw! Besides "shielding" the assembly, the parking brake retainer springs also hold the brake shoes against the dust shield. Please make sure that you are posting in the form of a question. I doubled up the cable ties on the front hole (had to do all 3). removed front shields, will put them back for the winter. Just need to fit a large washer and retighten the bolt with will nip it up nicely, although I suspect the disc might need to come off so that you can gain acess to the bolt though. Anti-lock brake systems have a fuse that fails if the ABS brake light is on or when the fuse is blown. Please refresh and try again. Well I got the rotor off. Flat rate pricing based on labor time and parts, Hand-picked, community-rated professionals, Trusted mechanics, rated by thousands of happy car Not do on the E9X? On my E46, I do have to dry the brakes after I go through a puddle since the back of the rotor and caliper get wet. Like I said I have very little in this car and not planning a restore,just make it reliable and safe to drive and auto x. YourMechanic All rights reserved. However, the problem you're describing is common when an issue with the master cylinder exists and air finds a way into your brake lines. lol. Previous page of related Sponsored Products. If you have to ask for a how to, you can't do it. Do you know if Brembos trimming is the same as Stoptechs? My passenger side brake dust shield has decided to go loose. Real benefit of the shields, IMO, is keeping radiant heat off the rubber bits attached to the knuckle and the very heat-conductive aluminum knuckle itself, I would trim rather than remove if possible for that reason. e90 titan silver 330d sport, golf cars,golf cars more golf and more cars, and some more golf. That should secure the top part of the plate and save having to take hubs off. I got years of extra service on dust shields on an E36 by modifying the quarter-turn fasteners into actual screws (grind off tabs and cut threads with a die). Now where to get the parts. by zagamuffin Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:38 pm, Post Please try again. update, all back together with new backing plates,rotors,pads,etc. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Tarmac rallying. Took it all apart easy enough to find that only the bolt holes had rusted! Only noticed it when I got home from work yesterday so gave it a prod through the wheel and it's very loose! If youre a DIY mechanic, its quite possible that youve encountered the dreaded brake dust shield while replacing brake pads. grreets from the newest member of shifty dust shield mile high club going to delete mine tomorrow. As a result, friction is increased when brake pads are applied to the rotor, which can increase the wear of pads and rotors. The same thing happened to me with my last zed, dust/heat shield is probably coroded at the botton which should be held in place by a bolt. Top 10 Bad Driving Habits That Damage Your Car, Symptoms of a Bad or Failing Brake Master Cylinder, How to Replace an Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS) Fuse or Relay on Most Cars. Please check compatibility before purchasing. Please try again later. StuBeeDoo, March 7, 2015 in General help (E46). Usually they crack around the holes as I said, so what I said first covers the likely scenarios. Unless you have a disc brake system, which cleans itself, the brake dust shield is important to protect the entire system. When Basically, if you are concerned about the quality, suitability, durability, and proper function of a replacement part on a modern motor vehicle, and you should be, the only acceptable practice is to use dealer OEM parts. Power Stop CRK2162 Rust Prevention Coated Front & Rear Brake Kit-Coated Brake Rotor Dorman 947-015 Front Passenger Side Brake Dust Shield for Select Chrysler/Dodge Models, Dorman 924-238 Brake Dust Shield for Select Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Models, 1 Pair, Dorman 947-016 Rear Brake Dust Shield Compatible with Select Chevrolet/GMC Models. Or are there after market dust shields thati can buy? Driver side is in better shape,backing plates looks good so I hate to damage it. For those of you whom installed BBKs, did you guys trim the dust shield? that gives me a good idea of the job. It's loose but just hung up. Just get some zip ties and tie it round the suspension arm and forget it even happened. Rear brake dust shields behind the rotors on a 2001 325i sport package,manual trans.. Im doing all new brakes and the dust shields are totally rusted out. New Rotors/Calipers/Pads and new fluids for diff,trans and engine. About 20mm across with a 5mm across hole ,this is a rough gestimate ,it may be easier with a square washer due to the shape of the shield. Made with in Silicon Valley. Full content visible, double tap to read brief content. It's a 30min job. Brake issues are extremely delicate and very hard to diagnose without an onsite brake inspection. I'll be ripping it off later this week during my "weekend".. check out the. by TameRacingDriver Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:17 pm, Post Fell walking. I was planning to buy the rears until I encountered StopTech's own article arguing AGAINST rear brake upgrades in almost every case: I was actually looking at AP, Stoptech Trophies, and Brembos. Most car owners can spray water from a high-pressure hose in-between the wheels holes and the light-powdered dust will easily fall from the brake calipers and rotors. I'll spray it with waxoyl, that should do it! 335d e92se gloss shadowline. Just replaced both my front brake heat shields, 20 odd each. You could always use the search function, it goes loose because the mounting rusts away. I also only got a BBK for the front axle. Our certified mobile mechanics make house calls in over 2,000 U.S. cities. or just completely remove them? by sw4nny Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:30 pm, Post At this point I noticed the jack (OEM) and Jack stands were starting to sink into the asphalt type pavement.. One x Genuine OEM Brake Dust Shield for BMW 34212228965, Find answers in product info, Q&As, reviews. I just happened to find a good deal on the brembos so went ahead and ordered them. Although these components can display warning signs or symptoms, like grinding when applied or squeaking, they will continue to wear and can eventually fail. If your model has manual or automatic locking hubs, to remove the front rotors, the Mechanic has to follow the procedure for wheel bearing removal in the Factory Service Manual. There was me thinking it'd be rusted to hell so it'll crumble away.. Same issue, corrosion around the bolt holes. It is always best to reinstall all OEM components when completing routine service and maintenance, which includes the brake dust shield on any car, truck, and SUV. ^ I don't know whether Brembos have the same trimming requirement, but if they do I imagine it would be mentioned in their install guide?

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